Avis sur le produitStar Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II -- The Sith Lords (PC, 2005)

Great Game, Only With Unofficial Patch

I bought this game back when it came out. I tried playing through it, but there were so many bugs and disjointed missions that just didn't seem to complete, though they did complete, I gave up on it and gave the game away. Well, after recently replaying KotOR I, which is one of my all time favorite games, I decided to give this game another shot after seeing the modding community fix the bugs and the story in KotOR II.

The game is now much better and plays essentially the same as KotOR, except there's an influence system where you can have an effect on your companions, and deeper weapon/item creation systems along with a few more light saber/force powers. The story is pretty good and your character development is a bit deeper than the one in KotOR. Gameplay is near identical to KotOR as well. While I think the storyline in KotOR II is deeper than KotOR, it is not as good overall when considering KotOR II's ending.

Having said this, I think this is a must buy especially if you have played KotOR, as the references to KotOR are often mentioned during the gameplay. The unofficial patches and an expansion mod makes this game a far cry better than the mess it was when it was first released. Even with these patches and mods, the game still has a bugs (a few are nasty still) and some weird graphical anomalies. KotOR was a definitive 10 for me, but I'll give this one an 8.5. If not for the persistent bugs and how a few missions just jump into play, instead flowing into them, I would give it a 9.5. If you do get it and play, save often. Outside of the unofficial patch (TSLRCM 1.8.3) and the expansion mod (M4-78EP), never use any other mod, as that will break the game and stop story progression in its tracks.Lire l'avis complet...

Vista & ATI users beware

This game seems to be good, but if you try to use it under Vista and Windows 7, you will have to do some patching.

The automatic patching program included in the game does not work. You need to download the patch from lucusartsgames.
Then, you need to download a "Vista fix" from filefront.
http://www.filefront.com/9398284/TSL-Windows-Vista-Fix/
Find the Knights of the Old Republic 2 section and download that or the game won't launch.

Next, you need to set all the .exe files in the game directory in Program Files to Windows 2000 compatibility mode.

Finally, the SecurROM copy protection may malfunction. Forcing you to download a crack from gamecopyworld that may or may not be considered legal in your jurisdiction.

Finally, if you have an ATI Graphics card or chipset, you will need to add a line under "[Graphics Options]" in the swkotor2.ini file. Insert a new line under the line that reads [Graphics Options]" to say "Disable Vertex Buffer Objects=1" without the quotes.

Once all those steps are taken care of, the game will work under Vista and Windows 7. A bit more startup overhead, but well worth it.

I haven't gotten past the beginning, but I thought I'd use my review to forewarn people about Vista so they know how to get the game to run. I'm not sure if I can include links in the reviews, so I left allusions to where to get the patches that would survive a fanfiction dOt net filter.Lire l'avis complet...

Story delivers, ending does not

If you played KotOR 1, I recomend you play this one too. The play style is much the same. The only thing they added are some new force powers. Aside from that, the controls, UI, and actions are basically all the same.

The story in this one is much different than the last, although the last one does tie into this one. Depending on certain answers you give to questions about what happened in the last game, certain things will be said/heard later on.

One of my favorite parts about this one rather than the first was the ability to influence your crew. I thought this was a great additino. By doing things, evil or good, you gain influence or lose it with members of your crew. ALso, your alignment greatly affects theirs as well. Some you can even teach to be Jedi, with enough influence. This aspect of the game makes it very apealing throughout the entire plotline.

The major drawback to this game is the conclusion. The story just kind of builds up throughout the game and then meanders on to the end. And the ending itself is a huge let down.

If you liked KotOR I would play this for sure. If you haven't, then I would still recomend it, though less highly.Lire l'avis complet...

A Good Sequal to a Great Game

Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic 2 (KOTOR2 henceforth) is a fitting, turn based combat rpg following up the story five years after the events in KOTOR1. For me it featured about 25-30 hours of solid playing time, fairly good for the genre. Like it's original, KOTOR2 delivers a riveting storyline and a great cast of characters. In a way, you can't help but feel like the director of your own Star Wars movie.

I'd like to point out the problems, and I'm sure they're mostly on my end. I'm running a rather new Vista based computer. I was exceptionally happy with the fact it played (after the gameplay patch anyway). The graphics are good quality, but it didn't feel like to huge of an upgrade from KOTOR. A lot of times things feel somewhat incomplete and just barely shelf worthy. There are bugs, so you find yourself hitting F4(quick save) often. Sometimes, dialog would just flyby, like it's missing the voiceacting or something. It's rather annoying. I haven't experienced it with my new headset, so it might of been my problem.

All in all, a true classic for the genre that belongs in your collection of games. Everyone should play it once, but I wouldn't go out of my way.Lire l'avis complet...

Good Sequel - Worthy of the original

The makers did the right thing when they released Sith Lords. The original KotOR was a break through in gameplay and had a jaw-dropping story line. Sith Lords takes that foundation and builds on it. Improving on some of the buggy game mechanics in the first game and adding a few new features definitely made the sequel a lot of fun.

The only place where this game lacked was in its story line. It lacked the epic grandness of the first game with its twists and turns, the fate of the galaxy hinging on your decisions. This game's story was much more subtle, psychological, and introspective. Not a bad plot by any means, but I didn't have moments of awe and surprise like I did in the first game.

Overall, If you enjoyed KotOR1, then you will definitely like this game. I'd pick it up and give it a try.Lire l'avis complet...

Great Game but Glitchy

This is what happens when a game company rushes a game out the door before it's ready. Knights of the Old Republic 2: The Sith Lords is a sequel to one of the best games ever made, and it should have been just as good. There's a good story, compelling gameplay and interesting characters abound.

Unfortunately, glitches and bugs are also abundant. NPCs get stuck walking around the terrain; there are quest chains that lead nowhere or can't be completed and, worst sin of all, there are glitches that make it impossible to progress further in the game unless one goes on the internet and downloads a fan-made patch. That, or you can lose all your progress and go back to a save game and make a different choice in a quest chain. Pitiful.

All that aside, it's still a fun game and a good engine. Just be prepared for corrupted save-games, glitchy non-player characters and general bugginess. Or you could just buy the original Knights of the Old Republic.Lire l'avis complet...

A decent game, but a let down from the original

Knights of the Old Republic II: the Sith Lords is a title that will seem very familiar to anyone who played the original KOTOR. The problem there lies in the fact that it's almost TOO similar.

Despite coming out a few years later, the graphics are identical to the first installment. KOTOR II takes this a step further because if you played the original, you will recognize some of the map locations. Particularly caves and fields are dead ringers for the original, making the game feel rushed in places. The controls are also a bit clumsier than KOTOR, which doesn't really make sense for a sequel to take steps backward in gameplay.

The cast of characters is expanded from the original, but some of the weaker characters really aren't worth playing. For example: three playable droids and a tech specialist? Karth and Bastila do make cameos, but aren't playable. Hey, at least you get a wookie and a Jedi assassin.

Some old favorites are back as far as force powers go, choke, lighting, insanity, lightsaber throw etc. There are also some new spices thrown in to look forward to (watch out for force crush, whew man). There's also an interesting option where your character can select force persuasion as a power, which leads to extra dialouges in conversations (think "these aren't the droids you're looking for"). In one instance, again on dark side, I remember talking a guy into jumping off a bridge, thinking that the landing will be much softer that way.

Many of the rewards for in game activities, particularly if you play dark side, come in the form of money, or credits in the Star Wars world. I found this to be frustrating because, unlike KOTOR, there is nothing to buy at the end of the game to make all the side quests feel worth while. No super light saber crystals or juiced up armors, and there are no advantages to having more money than God at the end of the game.

The plot also leaves something to be desired. Like KOTOR, you wake up in a strange place with no memories or who you are or how you got there, and the plot revolves around an all to familiar journey of self discovery. This game lacks the sense of purpose that the first one had, and most of the game is just flying to different worlds with no real explanation. There are choices between good and evil, but neither greatly affect the outcome. Not to give anything away, but it's hard not to see the ending coming from the very first opening sequence.

All in all this was a fun game, but not nearly as quality an experience as the first one. If you've played KOTOR and are itching for more, I would give this game a try, otherwise just stick to the original.Lire l'avis complet...

Good, but buggy!

The excellent Bioware title, KOTOR I, was really a spectacular game. I recommend it for any fan of the Star Wars genre. In KOTOR II - they tried to improve on the original - and came very close to succeeding - with more and better features such as being able to influence your party members, creating new items, more item possibilities, new combat styles, etc. A few things however detract from this mission - 1. Bugs! Save often in different places and be prepared to get stuck for no reason. Graphics often bug out as well - and that is with the patch, which is an absolute necessity. 2. Weak ending - play the whole game on difficult - that is the only way any of it is at all challenging. 3. Story is not as strong as Kotor I and at times can be a touch contrived.

All that said - if you have the patience for all that - there is a lot to like about KOTOR II - in many ways it is even more replayable than KOTOR I.Lire l'avis complet...

AWESOMENESS

this by far is an epic star wars game so many twsts turns snd other wonderful things i love it ide recomend this to any star wars fsn snd guess what fellow fans we got mod supoort yes mod support in the latest update if u have trouble updating the gwme just look up latest update for knights of the old republic 2 ans ul finde it after tgst download it on ur pc and ittle b as easy to instsll sd the game itself same with the first one bith hsve mod supoort anyway back ti the game its fun cool engaging snd loaded with twistz and turns like u wouldent believe i wont spoil its agsinst my code to do so but i will say it is not the typical star wars story its forboding mysterious unoredictibal and begs a sequal and ide love to c one but fare warning if ur a gamer eho loves bei g the hero as i do dont go to the dsrkside or ull moste likeoy have s very bad ending i csn tell u it wont b the typical sith ending u know kill thr former lacky take theirbplace rule the galaxy bla bla bla so on so on its i ektn spoil but i know it eont b sn ejnoyable ending just a warning for u hero ganers out there just look it up on utube to b safe any way i love this game its among the best star ears games and both 1&2 r the best sw games iv ever played by far and im glad i purchased it ebay may not have the best slection compared to like say amazon but it dkes hwve better deals and often ssves me money in s pinch ide recommend this gwme ro any sw rp or any gamer that loves s great story and epic scifi experienceLire l'avis complet...

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Awesome!!!!!!

this game is awesome. although the developers did have to cut out a lot due to time contraints, they still produced an engrossing and fantastic game worthy of the star wars name. this game has one of the best roleplaying game interfaces i have ever used. it is very organized and easy to manipulate so you dont get lost within the game. this is also a worthy sequel to the award winning star wars knights of the old republic. it surpasses its predecessor easily and continues to meet any expectation that one can have.Lire l'avis complet...